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Jan. 13th, 2013 04:42 pm
estepheia: (Forget Me Not)
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Okay, I have been too busy to visit LJ. Now I realize that there are adverts everywhere. Under every single post!

How are you guys dealing with the stupid ads? Did you all migrate? Is anyone still here?
Have you deleted your LJs? Reposted your stuff elsewhere? Did you decide to pay to get rid of the ads?

I already created an account at Dreamwidth. I meant to use it for the occasional fanfic, but now I'm thinking of going there and just crosspost to LJ, without actually reading posts here....


Date: 2013-01-13 04:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] petzipellepingo.livejournal.com
Most of us have LJ and Dreamwidth accounts these days, and do cross-posting.

I have a permanent account so don't know anything about ads.

Date: 2013-01-13 04:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] estepheia.livejournal.com
Well, crossposting sounds like the thing to do...
Well, I better get some practice with Dreamwidth...


Date: 2013-01-13 04:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] querida-bonbon.livejournal.com
I have a DW but I haven't imported my journal yet. However, I have a paid account here on LJ so I'm probably staying here for now :)

(I don't see the ads but I'm told they are horrible - adblocker?)

Date: 2013-01-13 04:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] estepheia.livejournal.com
They are truly annoying. They come with sound! I mean, really!
I used to have a paid account, but not anymore. First they took most of my icons, then they reduced the number again.... then adverts at the bottom of the page, and now ads everywhere. This sucks!


Date: 2013-01-13 04:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] justhuman.livejournal.com
The ads have been on the site for a few years now - I've got a perm account, so I don't see them. I did log off and muck about. They are at the bottom of every page, but not between the posts on the f-list.

There is a fannish migration away from LJ, and some of that is driven by the site administration (ads, shifting site interface to be more like Facebook, migration from US to Russian support staff, etc...). More of the migration seems to be associated with different communication tools. Twitter, Facebook and especially Tumblr are all drawing a lot of users.

That being said, there were some recent friending memes on LJ and DW pointing out that the various services have their advantages and disadvantages. Long conversations is still preferred at LJ and DW. Of course the one thing that was clear in the friending meme was that we need to be the change we want to see in the long form media outlets -- if you want to read more, you need to post more and comment more.

For myself, I consider DW my primary home now, but I still read my LJ. Dreamwidth and LJ are not an either/or situation. Like many DW adopters, I crosspost everything - to me it's an excellent back-up. However, if I have the option of commenting on the same post on DW or LJ - I choose DW 95% of the time. That being said, on a hot topic post, sometimes different conversations come up in the comments of LJ and DW and I might choose one, the other or both to comment in. I have noticed in the last couple of months that the same post on DW and LJ is getting more comment son DW for the first time for myself and for the folks that I follow who crosspost.

The improvements that DW made to the branch of the LJ open source code have been substantial. The site administration is stellar - they talk to the users constantly about the status of the business and plans for site improvement.

Among the features at DW that make it very attractive is the Crosspost and import utilities. You can now import from LJ you're entire journal, including icons, tags and all comments to posts. Comments are optional. They recently set up importing of comms, which has given a bunch of fannish comms the opportunity to at the very least archive their content. Some of them have migrated fully or in part. That being said, older fandoms are still better represented in comms on LJ. Newer fandoms start up in both sites, but apparently a lot more traffic on newer fandoms is taking place out on Tumblr and other venues.

For me, crossposting from DW is the right solution. I post it on DW, it crossposts to LJ (and IJ, because why not?). I can have conversations in both places. If I edit the post on DW, all the changes happen in all the crossposts too <--- I'd like to star this feature, because as much as I loved Semagic, it never did that for me when I used it to crosspost. There's another huge advantage to long fic writers - the post size limit is *HUGE* on DW. You don't need to break a fic into 3 pieces. That being said, I don't always take advantage of that because I crosspost and LJ will just cut off a long post. I'm still working on that. I think last time I ran into it, I posted it in pieces to LJ and IJ via the DW and then hid the DW post. Then I reposted in a single post on DW, giving the readers the option to go there and read in one sitting. Of course, I also post everything to AO3 now.

Date: 2013-01-13 04:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] estepheia.livejournal.com
Wow, thanks for your detailed and comprehensive post.
That is a great help!

But you're wrong, the ads are at the bottom of EACH post of my flist, i.e. between posts.
I have been aware of the banners at the bottom of each page for quite some time, those I was prepared to put up with, but the way my flist looks now, that's just plain ridiculous!

I will try to import my LJ into Dreamwidth.
A week from now I'll have a few days off. That seems to be the right moment to find out how it's done. :)
Thank you!!!

Date: 2013-01-13 04:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] justhuman.livejournal.com
Ah - sorry about the look of your f-list. It's probably the difference between logging out and appearing as a guest and being logged in as a free user. In an effort to be more like Facebook, LJ has created the "new friends page". There should be an option at the top of the page to try it out.

Like Facebook,it's a sitewide theme with infinite scroll. It's not my cup of tea, but it may place the adds differently than you're current f-list view.

Definitely try the import over to DW. Most people that you know here that moved over have the same name, so easy to look up. You might want to look at the friending meme that Kouredios set up. It started in the beginning of December, but I still get a ping for it. Even if it's a little late to put up your bio, you could find folks with similar interests to "subscribe" to.

On DW you have the option to give people "access" and to "subscribe" -- it splits the function of friending that LJ has. Just because of the status of my relations on LJ and the fact that I don't tend to lock anything, I usually end up giving everyone both. That being said, I can feel free to subscribe to anything without implying that I want to be BFF with this new person ;-)

Feel free to ping me if you've got questions!

Date: 2013-01-13 04:56 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I just started the import. *crosses fingers*
DW won't change the fact that I won't be around a lot, but at least I won't get angry at the ads whenever I do pop by for a quick dip into the fandom world....

Never thought I'd say this, but I am conservative - in that I feel that you should never touch a running system. LJ was great, so why tamper with it?

Anyway, I spent a few hours on my G/E WIP and I'm hoping to post the next installment soonish. Hence my interest in setting up an environment for the update. :)


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