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estepheia ([personal profile] estepheia) wrote2005-06-22 12:36 am
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Into the West

Into the West rocks! No, it's not terribly ground breaking, it's not even terribly unpredictable so far, but if you have a thing for American Natives and the Lakota language and subtitles, and visions, and parallel montage, and if you liked Dances With Wolves or A Man Called Horse then this is just the thing for you. The story is pretty archetypal, the photography beautiful, the pacing intelligent. I am reminded of Hanta Yo and the Harka-books that I read as a teenager. I just watched the first part and can't wait for the second. Although I must admit that there hasn't been an overabundance of Westerns movies lately, so I'm a bit starved...

And since I'm talking about Western shows/movies, here's a list of my favorites:

- Outlaw Josey Wales - because I love how the movie plays with clichés and the way the characters end up together almost by accident
- High Plains Drifter - because the idea is nifty, and it's fun watching Clint screw the towns people. Plus great twist at the end.
- Unforgiven - because its a masterpiece of disenchantment but not entirely cynical (and Clint rocks!)
- Once Upon a Time in the West - because of music, camera angles, and the sparse diaglogue. A classic!
- El Dorado and Rio Bravo - because the banter is good, the heros are broken, and friendship rules. Leigh Brackett rocked!
- Support your Local Sheriff - because it's funny and charming and I adore James Garner.
- Big Country - because Gregory Peck makes a wonderfully resourceful greenhorn.
- Silverado - because both story and cast are excellent. Plus it's pretty.
- Dances With Wolves - because it's beautiful and Kicking Bird is cute.
- True Grit - because John Wayne is so wonderfully grumpy.
- Man in the Wilderness - bizarre but fascinating story about the power of sheer stubbornness.
- Little Big Man - because... well, do you really need to ask?

When I was a kid I read what I could about American Indians, I even tried to take Indian names apart in order to create my own vocabulary of Indian terms. And while I'm otherwise a pretty forgetful person, I can still tell you that matto = bear, sapa = black, uitko = crazy or wild, etc.

[identity profile] julia-here.livejournal.com 2005-06-21 11:20 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't know, for sure, if it's even out on dvd or video, but there's a movie called "Sergeant Rutledge" with Woody Strode, about the Buffalo Soldiers, which is one of my favorite films, ever.

In other news, I'm trying to get the teenagers to get books ready to send, but unfortunately the taller, bearded one is looking for a job, and the shorter one is basically braindead after working a lot of theater rentals the last two weeks of school.

I am, however, persisting.

Julia, long summer yet ahead, I hope

[identity profile] estepheia.livejournal.com 2005-06-22 05:38 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, I never heard of that movie. Will keep my eyes open for it, but it's not likely I'll come across it...

As for the books, thank you, but luckily there's no rush, since we're still reading the books mommanerd sent us. :-)

It's finally summer here. I hope the weather stays good for a while. Yesterday was migraine weather and hubby retched his guts out for hours, poor thing.

I need a bit of rain for my garden, which I want to fall at night time. LOL.
:-)

Steffi, who has to go through a few more boxes this morning even though she'd prefer to spend a few hours writing...

[identity profile] db2305.livejournal.com 2005-06-22 08:49 am (UTC)(link)
Did you read Karl May as a kid? I loved it, and the movies too. It's not a rec, since I don't think either would be palatable now, but that started my love of Indians and cowboys.

Karl May

[identity profile] estepheia.livejournal.com 2005-06-22 09:43 am (UTC)(link)
Are you kidding? Most German kids grow up with Karl May! I read several books and saw the movies. I even visited the Karl May Museum in Radebeul (when it was still in the GDR) I was a great fan - my mother hated the stuff. But yeah, that started my love of Indians and Cowboys.

did you know that there's a Shoshoni word called wintu that means man? At least so I heard.

Re: Karl May

[identity profile] db2305.livejournal.com 2005-06-22 10:25 am (UTC)(link)
My dad had all the books, and I used to get one once a week if I cleaned up my room and did my homework...I devoured them.

Wasn't Winnetou supposed to be an Apache? Wwell, maybe those languages are related, although I don't think so. At least old Karl did some research!
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[identity profile] transtempts.livejournal.com 2005-06-22 12:20 am (UTC)(link)
I also love 'Outlaw Josey Wales.'

[identity profile] estepheia.livejournal.com 2005-06-22 05:39 am (UTC)(link)
'Pale Rider' is not bad either. I really think that Mr. Eastwood's contribution to the Western genre is remarkable. :-)
But OJW? my favorite. Have seen that one at least a dozen times over the years....
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[identity profile] transtempts.livejournal.com 2005-06-22 07:20 pm (UTC)(link)
I own it. It's just..good. Love the humor...the way he seems to 'collect' people along the way..

[identity profile] estepheia.livejournal.com 2005-06-22 08:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, definitely a film to own. Nice rag tag collection of all the Western archetypes.
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[identity profile] transtempts.livejournal.com 2005-06-23 03:12 am (UTC)(link)
oh dear. i think i need to watch it again now. :)am going to look up those other two titles you mentioned (the clint ones) sounded interesting, thanks for the recs.

::bounce::

[identity profile] petzipellepingo.livejournal.com 2005-06-22 01:27 am (UTC)(link)
Graham Greene, is a fine Native American actor. He was Born on June 22, of 1956 within the Six Nations Reserve located outside of Brantford, Ontario, Canada. Mr. Greene is an actor of television, stage, film and voice. He is as solid in dramatic acting as he is in comedy. Before he became an actor he worked as a draftsman, steelworker, civil technologist, and as a sound engineer for a major rock band located in Canada.

Upon Graduating from the Centry of Indigenous Theatre, a Native Theatre school program in 1974, he began his acting career in 1976. As one of the Nation's most high-profile aboriginal performers, best known in theatre for his performances in Tomson Highway's Dry lips Oughta Move to Kapuskasing and also in Judith Thompson's play The Crackwalker at the Native Earth Performing Arts. Mr Greene has also performed in London, England at Theatre Passe Muraille, Manitoba Theatre Centre, The Royal Alexandra Theatre and the 25th Street Theatre.

He has won several awards including, a Dora Mavor Moore Award For best performance in Dry Lips Oughta Move to Kapuskasing,1989, and a Gemini for his role as "Mr. Crabby Tree" in Dudley the Dragon a Childrens Program. Mr. Greene was Nominated for Best Performance by an actor in a Supporting Role in 1990, for his performance as " Kicking Bird" in Dances With Wolves. Graham Greene has also won a First American in The Arts award in 1996 for his role as" Joe Lambert" in Die Hard with a Vengeance.

In 1997,Graham Greene was hospitalized after a suicide attempt and a stand-off with police. He has since returned to work, notably on CBC TV,and in several other films." Which we are proud that he has taken part in". And he has gone public to discuss his battle with clinical depression.

Mr. Greene lives outside of Uxbridge, Ontario, Canada with his lovely wife Hilary Blackmore and thier children.
Just thought I'd throw this in since you think GG is cute
and speaking of dictionaries...
http://www.lakhota.com/online/
















[identity profile] estepheia.livejournal.com 2005-06-22 05:41 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, thanks for the link and the summary. Yeah, I've seen a few more movies with Graham Greene and he always did solid work. I wish there were more decent roles for Native Americans in movies and TV shows...

[identity profile] willowgreen.livejournal.com 2005-06-22 02:45 am (UTC)(link)
- Little Big Man - because... well, do you really need to ask?

Oh, how I loved that movie! It gave me one of the tag lines of my life: Sometimes the magic works, and sometimes it doesn't.

[identity profile] estepheia.livejournal.com 2005-06-22 05:41 am (UTC)(link)
I remember watching it at a relatively young age. My jaw dropped several times. An impressive movie.
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[personal profile] shapinglight 2005-06-22 08:01 am (UTC)(link)
Ulzana's Raid - that's a good movie, though kind of dark.

[identity profile] estepheia.livejournal.com 2005-06-22 08:10 am (UTC)(link)
I don't think I've ever managed to see that one... :-(
I don't watch TV anymore so I don't have a TV guide. I will check if Amango (our netflix version) has it... :-)
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[personal profile] shapinglight 2005-06-22 08:12 am (UTC)(link)
It's worth it, I think, though dark, as I said.

[identity profile] silvertedy.livejournal.com 2005-06-24 12:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Sorry, don't mean to just pop in but I had to say that you have excellent taste in cinema. I'm a fan of all the spaghetti Westerns (go, Clint!) myself, and I never see Rio Bravo on TV w/o watching it at least until the scene w/the singing in the jail. Have you ever seen The Man Who Shot Liberty Valence? Not only a great song, but John Wayne and Jimmy Stewart. And High Noon. Oh, I could just go on.

[identity profile] estepheia.livejournal.com 2005-06-24 09:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Heee, feel free to pop in any time you like - especially if you're complimenting me. *chuckles*
I saw The Man Who Shot Liberty Valence about 30 years ago and my recollection is hazy, which is why it didn't make the list. I only added movies that I've seen and appreciated as a discerning adult. Otherwise I would have had to list Red Sun with Alain Delon, Toshiro Mifune and Charles Bronson - not a very good movie, but one I enjoy nonetheless.

High Noon is a fine movie too, I agree. There is at least a dozen or so of western films that I like and that didn't make the list...

[identity profile] partri65.livejournal.com 2005-06-28 03:28 pm (UTC)(link)
No one has mentioned "Jeremiah Johnson" - a serious oversight!

[identity profile] estepheia.livejournal.com 2005-06-28 03:50 pm (UTC)(link)
I totally agree. That's a damn fine movie.
So is Man in the Wilderness. And there are a handful more movies that I like, I just couldn't list them all. :-)